The Difference Between Domains
- Filed under: Domains
- Date: May 25,2008
This post is to address a few things about domains. First of all I want to talk about my previous post where I asked a question about the ranking of a website with a preowned domain. The factors which will help a site to rank with a preowned domain that may not have any or few inlinks was answered correctly by some of you. The age of the domain is an important factor, but whats age if you have no content on a domain? Thats why when you find an expiring domain that has content on it, and you find that this content has been on it for years, if it is a niche that you can work then buy it.
Let me give you an example. This past week I bought a domain name of a person. That person had a website on this domain about a specific thing related to health. What I did then was search the title to see if that site still ranked for that term, and what do you know, it ranked for 2 good terms on the first page of Google out of almost 6 million results.
Now the funniest thing is as far as I can see, there are no inlinks to this site, but its been up for about 6 years, so obviously the content on the pages of this site are aged. What this tells me is that I shouldn’t have any problem using the cached content and using this domain to put adsense on it and make some money. So once again, a domain That is 5 or 6 years old with none to few inlinks can outrank a newer site with thousands of inlinks because of the age of the domain and the age of the relevant content on the pages of that website.
Now I am not saying that the other site with thousands of links cannot outrank the aged site. If it continues to build anchor links for the specific keywords that both are trying to rank for it will eventually take over that top spot, but all I am merely saying is that a site with no inlinks can outrank another site on the same subject that has thousands of inlinks.
What type of Domain to Buy?
This brings me to a second thing. What about new domains and expiring domains? Should I get a .com or a cheaper .info and why?
This has been discussed sporadically already, but lets talk about the different advantages. First of all with new domains. We all know after I made a previous post about the way Google looks at .info domains that some changes with Google regarding .info domains were made. Now I am not going to tell you to not buy .info domains, because Google is unpredictable and we really don’t know what changes could happen yet again. But regardless, it all comes down to your individual circumstances.
If everyone had a several hundred dollars to invest in domains then I would say preowned domains is the way to go. I like preowned and spend more time browsing through soon to expire domains rather than looking for new ones to buy. On the other hand, if you do not have as much money, but still a reasonable amount to buy new .com domains then by all means get them especially for adsense niches.
Now if you do not have as much and you are on a shoestring budget, then you really do not have much of a choice other than to buy .info domains at the 99 cents that they have on special at Godaddy sometimes. But the issue now is that it may take longer for you to get them indexed because Google has changed their stance to become more strict on .info domains because of spammers out there.
Getting Results
You can see fast results with a preowned .com or a new .com many times, but not every case. With the new .com you will get a good burst of traffic of you get the site all indexed quickly, however it may level off and drop you way down in Google search results because it is new if you get too much traffic and too many inlinks. This would in effect be getting sandboxed.
On the other hand you have the preowned domain which has already withstood the test of time and is ready to rock and roll. What this means is you can not only get results right away but can continue to see results for weeks and months.
Not every case is just so, but with the domains that I have bought this is my experience with them and I would not be saying this if it was not the case with multiple domains I have bought new and used, so I hope this helps you to see where you can prioritize when it comes to buying domains so that you can get what you can afford. There is a whole lot more detail i could elaborate more on but what I have covered is sufficient enough.
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18 Responses for "The Difference Between Domains"
I’d also add that Blogger blogs also seem to be under the same dark cloud as .infos. A few months ago I could put one up and start getting trickle traffic for it quickly. Now, it’s taking weeks to get them indexed and even then search ranking is much lower.
Justing: When you buy a pre-owned, do get one with a site on it? Because most have the Godaddy page or something else. If not, how can see how it’s ranking with no more content on it?
Btw, I’m using “closeout” in freshdrop(don’t have a site).
Steve look to see what the Google cached page is. If it is still cached with the old content then you are ok. For example, you might type in site:domain-name.com and then see if the cached pages that show for each listing are still the old content. There are a lot of sites out there each day with live content still on them.
Hi Justin,
To supplement Steve’s question,
But is it not true that when we buy an old domain, we only get the domain name and not the content? Or do you mean to say if contents are still indexed, we make use of the content’s title or keywords and insert fresh content with the same title and the same keywords?
Right, it means that you just look at the content and then base your content off that by either recreating it or making the same indexed pages similar to what was there before.
So, if the pages are no longer indexed, is it like a new blog, or does it still have some aged domain benefits?
Sorry, another question, what if the cached pages are the godaddy parking pages? Is it still worth getting?
Hi Frank that hasnt been my experience with blogger blogs - I started the 1 in my sig on May 17 (some posts were pre-dated) and it got indexed inside 24 hr. I am using a blogger account Ive had for a year and I havent added any ads yet - because I was worried about getting sandboxed. Im surprised at the amount of traffic I get from blogger itself
It still has the aged benefit, but it is better to get a hold of the pages before Google caches something else. You recreate all the existing pages and then use similar content or modify whats showing for the cached pages. I try not to disturb whats there if it is good content.
So if a domain has been parked for five years, is it still worth anything? I’ll look at an older domain name and can’t find cached, links in yahoo or anything.
Still worth buying just because it’s old?
Sure it is Wayne. Even if it is indexed in Google with a parked page.
if the domain is expired is it just like buying a new domain? I’m still unsure on this. you have to buy it prior to it being expired right?
Yes Daniel if the domain completely expired then buying it again from Godaddy or where ever you buy domains would be like buying it new.
BANS + .info = google ban
People I’m sorry to say your de-indexed BANS sites are banned. Get all the links you want, they are not coming back. If I’m wrong about this and you have a .info that got re-indexed than show me.
If you want to salvage your remaining .info build them out with Wordbay or Phpbay. I know BANS is better but something is better than nothing.
As a test I built 20 .info BANS sites and 20 .info Phpbay sites 2 weeks ago. All my BANS sites got indexed in 2 days and de-indexed a couple of days later. All my Phpbay sites got indexed and are still indexed. Could I be wrong and your .info BANS sites get re-indexed? Sure, nobody knows googles algorithm for sure but I don’t think so. I’ve got .info BANS sites from 6-8 months ago with thousands of links and tons of authority links all de-indexed.
I will address this in the next few days with a post that will be helpful for people with .info domains.
I just did a search on google for:
site:*.info “powered by build a niche store”
and it shows that Google has BANS indexed
dunno if they are going to be pulled/if it’s a reindex, etc. but just wanted to say that they are still there
Ok well looking at your search I get 530 results, most of which are not even bans sites or are duplicate domains. There are a few bans sites listed and I bet you they are new sites that will be deindexed within a few days.
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